Rolex Wait List Means Nothing


Rolex Daytona still on the Rolex wait list

UPDATE 1/5/2021: This post about the Rolex wait list was written in May 2019. I was dead wrong when I predicted “a big fall after the fall” in Rolex prices, an increase in availability and an imminent end to wait lists. So here’s where we stand now . . .

There are long wait lists for every new Rolex. Prices for pre-owned Rolex have soared. It’s a simple reflection of the law of supply and demand.

Rolex wait list for new Submariner

At last count, in 2019, Rolex made 1m watches per year. reports that Rolex may have lost a quarter of their annual production in 2019. As the Geneva watchmaker produces some 1m watches per year, that lowers total output to 750k – at the same time that demand experienced a dramatic uptick.

Rolex surprised everyone by reversing their decision not to release new models in 2020; the updated inventory (new Sub above) created plenty o’ buzz in the middle of a bleak period of our collective history. Demand increased dramatically.

At the same time, wealthy people saved a LOT of money during lockdown – forgoing expensive vacations and luxury shoppertainment, refraining from high-priced dining and social events. They bought Rolex in droves. Not to mention the fact that luxury watch buyers “fled to safety,” spending their money on recognized brands rather than relatively obscure watchmakers.

“The knock on effect of that closure is still being felt today,” reports, “with authorized dealers speaking to WatchPro on condition of anonymity saying the drought has never been worse.” Bottom line: the Rolex cupboard is bare. Watches coming through the system are pre-sold. And then some.

Looking ahead . . .

Roaring 20's

Sociologists are predicting that Coronageddon’s end will unleash a post-pandemic “roaring ’20s.” (Some say no.) If we are heading for unbridled hedonism, demand for Rolex will remain high, or go higher. Rolex being Rolex, they won’t bust a gut to increase production. So . . . more wait lists and elevated prices for pre-owned pieces. Unless the world economy crashes.

In the grand scheme of things, wait lists don’t mean anything except . . . waiting. As a 61-year-old, I can tell you that the older you get the faster time flies. The trick: get on the list. Click here for a post on how that works. We will continue to monitor the prices of pre-owned Rolex (which indicate availability of new pieces), but the best place to do that is

Meanwhile, here’s the original post. Suffice it to say, Coronageddon turned the world upside down. There’s still good info there, but this post is more of a historical record of where we were in May 2019 than an accurate indicator of where we were going. 2020 was not a good place. Let’s hope 2021 returns things to normal ASAP . . .

Glengarry Glenn Ross Baldwin Rolex

Rolex, Patek Philippe and Audemars Piguet waiting lists are just as long as before the pandemic say authorized dealers. That’s the headline at Which tells you nothing. Why would someone take themselves off a Rolex wait list for a panda-face steel Daytona? What have they got to lose by staying on it? The more important question will they say “yes” when they get the call?

We hear stories of dealers calling customers on the Rolex wait list to say their watch has finally arrived – and getting turned down. One customer said he couldn’t buy a new Rolex after laying off hundreds of employees. His boss wouldn’t be impressed either. If you can’t wear your fancy Daytona or Hulk GMT at work or in public as a badge of honor, why buy it?

Not surprisingly,’s Rob Corder doesn’t mention this issue. The industry cheerleader was more interested in finding a cipher to debunk our suggestion that Rolex (and Patek and AP) might ramp-up grail watch production to generate desperately needed cash for both dealers and the corporate mothership.

Chinese Rolex dealership

One authorized dealer who spoke to WatchPro on condition of anonymity [ED: dealership not shown above], said he did not expect Rolex or Patek Philippe to significantly ramp up production of unicorn watches, adding that he thought it was good for the market that they remain too rare to be sold to walk-up customers.

“I don’t want to see [Rolex Submariner] Hulks in windows. Demand should exceed supply for these special watches,” he suggests.

“I expect the balance between steel professional watches and DayDates, etc, to remain about the same,” he added while stressing that nobody outside the Rolex citadel really knows.

I find it incredible that an authorized Rolex dealer wouldn’t want lots of customers rocking-up and buying Hulk Subs right from the window right about now. And if the Rolex dealer does have that opinion, check in with him again if a Christmas sales catastrophe come to pass.

Watches of Switzerland Rolex sales boutique - Rolex wait list starts/ends here

The old paradigm – grail watches sell lesser watches – is dead. Thanks to Coronageddon, customers further down the food chain are not in a position to stretch their budget to buy a Rolex. Some are now unemployed, all are wary of the future. As well they should be.

Any Rolex dealer who doesn’t see which way the wind is blowing in their market sector is willfully blind.

After falling by an estimated 25 percent in the first quarter of 2020, the slowdown [in the personal luxury goods market] should accelerate in the second quarter and could lead to an estimated contraction of between 20 percent to 35 percent for the full year.

I’d bet dollars to donuts Rolex availability will be greater in the next six months than it’s been in the last two years – regardless of limited production or the assertion that the brand is “on fire” after its 2020 new product launches. I’d wager even money that falling demand will make the Rolex wait list – at least for non-grail Explorers, Datejusts and the like – a thing of the past.

Rolex HQ - the spiritual home of the Rolex wait list

In terms of price, I repeat: there’s no chance Rolex, Patek or AP are going to drop prices on any of their new watches. The luxury goods behemoths don’t want to devalue their brands. They’ve got the cash reserves/line of credit they need to weather the Coronageddon-caused storm – which could last years.

It’s another story at the other end of the sales pipeline.

Authorized dealers (ADs) are suffering. They may soon take a haircut on their margins to move the metal – if they’re not doing so already. As for grail watches, even AD’s staring down the barrel of bankruptcy aren’t stupid enough to sell a grail watch at a discount – as long as there’s demand. But is there enough demand?

Rolex Pepsi

Authorized dealers speaking to WatchPro have said that inquiries are still coming in for watches such as Rolex’s steel Submariner, GMT Master II, particularly the Batman and Pepsi; the Daytona 116500LN; Patek Philippe’s Nautilus and Aquanaut; and Audemars Piguet’s steel Royal Oaks.

Deliveries for these watches have been suspended since March to authorized dealers, and what stock there was in the channel before lock down has been sold to the best customers.

As with Chrono24, you’re advised to note the difference between “inquiries” and “sales.” And as interesting as interest is, how can unsatisfied consumer interest be good news? Inquiries don’t pay the rent. If there aren’t any or enough watches to sell, grail or otherwise, dealers are done. If they can’t sell the ones they have, same thing.

Rolex GMT Pepsi for sale

I have no doubt Rolex dealers are out of stock of grail watches – even though they’ve become an increasingly regular feature on the pre-owned market. Which brings us full circle. Will Rolex, Patek and AP (and Vacheron and the rest) increase grail watch production to save dealers’ collective bacon? Would even that be enough? Time will tell.

Prices for pre-owned watches are slipping at the bottom to middle of the Rolex market. Our man Adams will update you shortly. We’ve already made our prediction: a big fall after the fall. Meanwhile, I share Mr. Corder’s hope for the future. But I don’t share his optimism. In some ways, I hope I’m wrong. In other ways, I’m saving my money.


  1. First of all, great blog. It’s so much different than typical watch blogs.

    I’ve been looking for an Explorer 1 for about 9 months. Names on waitlists and such. Annoyed with the whole “you need to form a relationship with your AD” nonsense. Please – not looking for a new BFF, just a watch.

    Then, coronavirus hit. And you know what? I’m not sure I even want that watch anymore. Somehow the prospect of wearing something so indulgent seem a little obscene in times like this. In prosperous times, it’s mildly celebratory. In times when people are struggling to keep food in their fridge, it’s perhaps less socially appropriate to be flaunting wealth (and anyone who says wearing a watch that costs as much as a used car isn’t flaunting wealth is out of touch, lying, or stupid).

    • I reckon there are a LOT of people who feel like you do (Peter Frampton comes alive). Falling demand will take its toll. Yes, even on Rolex.

    • I went through a similar experience. A month ago I emailed a few AD’s about a few (non-grail) Rolex models, and got the same faux-exclusive boilerplate waitlist and relationship business. Some of them even said they only sell to people located in their city.
      After a while, I just lost interest, and put the money into something else.

      I like to support independent business, but at some point this industry needs to realize their practises are often times a barrier for making a sale at the best of times, never mind in these economic conditions. I understand that playing the game is part of the appeal for some, but most of my peers under 40 just want to click and pay.

  2. I had the same experience with AD, I got on waiting list for the OP. Never, got a call back. I will never buy a Rolex in my lifetime only Omega’s or Bvlgari.

  3. Your beef is not with Rolex nor the dealers. Its with the secondary market. The secondary market is loaded with Rolex and in most models that are being looked for. How is that possible? You can get a new in box steel Rolex, complete with warranty card and in some cases, even with the plastic still on. Of course you are being gouged to death with the most ridiculous prices for these. But the watches are coming from an authorized dealer, to a flipper, to a secondary dealer. The non authorized dealer cannot buy these from anyone other than a flipper, or a dealer who just sells to the first one who walks in with cash. Its as simple as that. If you think Rolex is holding back to drive their product, that is just nonsense. Every major dealer in the secondary market, has the desired watches. And as soon as he sells them at crazy prices, he finds more to replenish his supply.
    The only ones you should be blaming are the flippers, the dealers paying crazy prices to the flippers and last but not least, the fools who pay ridiculous money to inflate their egos. The authorized dealers are only saying they do not get these watches, to cover their dishonesty. They “must” be getting watches, otherwise the watches must be materializing out of thin air. Lets get a grip on reality. If any think that Rolex is the problem, guess again. Audemars, Patek are also without inventory, but both can be had if you are willing to pay the clowns outrageous prices.

    • 100% spot on, except for one detail…

      You CAN blame the AD’s as well, because the AD’s are selling to flippers instead of genuine customers. In fact, it is mostly the AD’s faults.

      The more you do business with them, the more you move up in priority to them, so of course flippers are buying way more watches more frequently than the actual buyer.

      However, from what I can see from my AD, they don’t want watches they sell flipped… when I bought a watch, they made me size it and removed the tags there, which I assume is so that I couldn’t walk out with it in brand new, unused, sealed from the factory condition. I could still flip it obviously, but they want to take that step.

      The simple solution for AD’s in addition to this to prevent flipping, would be when dealing with these really “good” and frequent customers, is to ask them to bring in their previous purchases for the AD to see. If you’re buying your 5th Rolex in 2 years, and you do not have at least 3 out of 4 of your past purchases still in possession, you’re a flipper.

      It’s as easy as that, if you’re an AD and you are doing business with a customer buying multiple watches in a short period of time, refuse to sell them until you see and confirm their past purchases are still in their position, have not been flipped.

  4. No matter how annoyed people get, demand will never slow. The AD where I shop, they get random people all day long walking in asking for watches. ALL DAY LONG. It’s hilarious that people believe that customers will tire of the drama and spend their money elsewhere. The harder they are to get the more people will want them. I’ve built a history with my AD and though I have to wait a few months sometimes, I get all the pieces that I want and have a great collection.

  5. In 2019 , I received a 39mm Explorer from a major AD in two months of asking. Minimal purchase history, really insignificant. In 2021, from that same dealer, I received a 41mm Sub in 7 months of asking. Now, at a new Rolex AD, no purchase history, I received an Explorer II Polar after 4.5 months of asking. What’s my secret? I get to know people, then make a request. I have been described as a nice person by the salespeople. People help people they like. Make a friend.

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